The GunCon 3 has a lot of buttons which could be useful in light gun I used a IDA script to analyse the TC4 elf (analyze_self.idc from kakaroto/ps3ida I've been trying to get guncon2 (ps2) guns working in MAME recently and I think I'm up to the last hurdle. If you want to help out the testing of this beta driver, then you can head over to the MiSTer FPGA discord. This is normal as the gun is not yet calibrated. chrisnack, I got my guns last night, took about an hour to get them to work. If that's all you want, is to use your guncons, that's the way I have done it. This is the (unofficial) subreddit. But it seems like the light gun genre has gone out of fashion. Also the PS2 version uses a real light gun which gives it excessive flashing as a machine gun game. I did see some talk about someone trying to write some drivers but there was some difficulty because of the way the communication was encrypted I think. The PCB needs to be approximately straight in line with the center-line of the gun. What is the best PC light gun for playing light gun games in 2020? This makes them compatible with ALL displays Both CRTs. The Guncon 3 is a light gun for the Play Station 3 that was bundled with Time Crisis 4. One interesting feature of the GunCon3 was that it also had a joystick on the side that let you control movement Mainly for a FPS extra game in Time Crisis 4. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'lightgungamer_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_2',126,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-lightgungamer_com-large-leaderboard-2-0'); Further links and notes on the Namco Gcon3, Linux drivers for the Guncon3 lightgun Allow you to use it as a joystick. Simple calibration process requires no host software. There is a decryption table at $1009AA90 that is used to decrypt the data sent from the Guncon - this is probably the main reason no other games or drivers can use this lightgun (they don't have the decryption algorithm), which is a really big shame because it's an excellent light gun! Every button has two possible assignments, an on-screen and off-screen setting. If you want to help out the testing of this beta driver, then you can head over to the MiSTer FPGA discord. PS Move could be much more accurate on PS4 with the dual camera. Build what you dig.***. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Time Crisis 4 (Sony PlayStation 3, 2007) Guncon 3 Bundle PS3 - Tested and Workin at the best online prices at eBay! I'm running S-video from my PC in my cab and I can't figure out for the life of me how to get the Guncon 2 (Namco one) working with S-video. IR Tracking Camera Module with integral USB interface. Hey chris let us know how he goes. The mouse cursor will eventually start to move and come to rest, pointing at a location near the top left corner of the screen, and begin to flash. The guncon 3 actually works like a Wii remote with IR LEDs on either side of the screen. Pivoting USB Cable: https://amzn.to/3I9S4rg But i'm able to use both guns at the same time and everything is working great. More info below the links: Pre-Order the Sensors Here:https://www.laserbear.net/products/guncon3-ir-tower-replacements Would be great to see twin guns work on twin machines with a 2 player link. The Joystick axes are also easy to work out, moving the joysticks one axis at a time shows that there is only 1 byte the changes. WebThe Namco GunCon (known as G-Con in Europe) is a PlayStation peripheral first released in 1994, with the GunCon 2 for the PlayStation 2 following it up in 2001. Some console guns have other buttons which can also be connected. The guncon_attached function is passed a GUNCON_UNIT_t struct that has been partially initialised with the dev_id and pipes set up, the function clears the buffer and sets the send_buffer/_related with a key of some sorts, I don't fully understand the method used to generate the key but the buffer send_buffer_related appears to be derived from send_buffer (hence the name). WebGunCon 3, Japanese domestic model: two analogue sticks have been added to the gun for advanced aiming/movement controls The GunCon 3 utilizes two infrared LEDs as markers, placed on the left and right sides of the screen. Accuracy is comparable with the Time Crisis 4 arcade which is not surprising as it uses the same gun tech. If you have a GunCon 2 and a compatible analogue TV, you may be able to utilise it with Batocera. The Gcon3 (or GunCon3) from Namco was the third version of the popular Gcon series released for the PlayStation consoles. The GunCon 3 has a lot of buttons which could be useful in light gun Welcome to /r/lightgunshooters! - Zptn vazba zanechan kupujcm n***r (112). Somebody said there's a "correct" USB slot to use with each? The only problem is the lack of support for any other device - there are no drivers for Windows, Linux, etc. Really hoping (FINGERS CROSSED) this works well with MAME v.124 And I hope I have no issues using two guns ! I apologize for what it perhaps a SUPER NOVICE question, but these drivers will allow me to use GunCon2's unmodified (*stock) with MAME ? Deciphering the code for the PS3 USB driver took me a little while, but most of the time was spent looking up PowerPC instructions like clrlslwi. It is only compatible with the PS3 games Time Crisis 4 ( TC4 ), Time Crisis 4: Razing Storm and Deadstorm Pirates. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I used a Beagle USB 12 protocol analyser and hooked the Guncon up to the PS3 and started Time Crisis 4 (TC4), before starting TC4 the PS3 reports the Guncon as an unknown USB device - the game must provide a driver, because as soon as the game starts you can see the USB enumeration and setup packets, along with the magic initialisation packet sent to the output endpoint. At this time the pointer may not move to the edge or may go off the edge and bounce to the other side. Once the decryption algorithm was reversed I could decrypt all the information coming from the Guncon. This tab is also used to upgrade firmware. WebThe Namco GunCon (known as G-Con in Europe) is a PlayStation peripheral first released in 1994, with the GunCon 2 for the PlayStation 2 following it up in 2001. The USB cable should be connected and routed through the gun including existing strain-relief methods, which usually include snaking through a number of retention pillars. The guncon 3 actually works like a Wii remote with IR LEDs on either side of the screen. I like the Gun over the move for Time Crisis after you calibrate the sensors it plays wel.. the move is good for games like House of the dead because it is not compatible with a gun. However GCC will assume that the address could overflow and will truncate it with clrldi. To do this, the existing gun electronics must be stripped out, but retain the trigger switch. Some DIY assembly and creativity is needed for the PCB mounting. This must be clicked to apply any changes made in the above settings. Gun currently works with Mame in RetroPie (for Raspberry Pi), PSX Beetle (PC/Windows), Saturn Beetle (PC/Windows) and PCSX2 (PC/Windows). 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. The GunCon 3 was made specifically with modern displays in mind. Have fun and shoot off the screen to reload!! The interesting strings are Guncon 3: probe and Guncon 3: attach_done, the attach_done string appears in a subroutine that I called guncon_attached and starts at $0787A08. You should see "Device not found" on the bottom line. Players which are very different heights will not easily be able toshare a gun. Still trying to fix off screen reload on lethal enforcers but I'll make a new post for that. This should allow any device that's emulating a mouse such as the Wii mote or Guncon 2 to work. It connects via USB and has camera in front of it like an aimtrak or a topgun 3 light gun. You can start the calibration process from this window. If you have a GunCon 2 and a compatible analogue TV, you may be able to utilise it with Batocera. Players can move through the story line in single player mode or team up with a friend in the two-player local co-op mode.Like its predecessors, Time Crisis 4 was originally released as an arcade shooter with built-in laser guns. - Zptn vazba zanechan kupujcm 2***j (3410). So if I were to hooked it all up through composite I wouldn't be able to put my bezel back on because of the jacks. , I am using 6.8 (which was the latest version when I was doing this, 6.9 is out now) An extra plug-in called PowerPC AltiVec Extension is required to decode the extra AltiVec instructions used in the CellBE processor. The plan is to use this on a MAME cabinet that also features NES, SNES, and really most console gun games. I wish. The GunCon 3 is not compatible as it has no driver support yet. I currently own a GunCon 3 for the PlayStation 3, and it's a nice LCD-compatible lightgun. The gun trigger should be wired to the white connector. I read in another thread somewhere that someone hooked up the composite single from the Guncon2 into an empty composite input on the TV and it worked. Note on the current version the second 5-pin connector location has no connector fitted although the connections are functional. I hoped to fix this problem by creating a Linux kernel module to support the Guncon 3. Time Crisis 4 on the PS3 has HD rendering of the same graphics. LEDs not pointed in the approx direction of the gun. Free shipping for many products! OFF:This setting disables all tilt functionality. Nothing wrong with the quality and it works great. The guncon_attached function takes 3 arguments, int32_t x, int32_t y, GUNCON_UNIT_t* unit - I do not understand exactly what the first 2 arguments are but the last argument is a pointer to a struct that describes the connection to the Guncon 3 which I called GUNCON_UNIT_t. This will normally be contained in the install folder of the program. The Ultimarc AimTrak Light Gun Module is a tiny PCB containing a camera and tracking logic which can be mounted inside any available gaming gun body including arcade guns and console guns such as Guncon. A blog mostly about stuff that I enjoy making or doing, expect posts about retro gaming, emulation, programming and electronics! ; this block appears to calculate a checksum of the values returned, ; ((b >> 8) ^ (b >> 16)) + (b >> 24) + (b >> 32), ; ((b >> 8) ^ (b >> 16)) + (b >> 24) + (b >> 32) - (b >> 40), ; ((b >> 8) ^ (b >> 16)) + (b >> 24) + (b >> 32) - (b >> 40) - (b >> 48), ; (((b >> 8) ^ (b >> 16)) + (b >> 24) + (b >> 32) - (b >> 40) - (b >> 48)) ^ (b >> 56), ; ((a ^ b_sum) - (a >> 8) - (a >> 16)) ^ (a >> 24), ; a ^ b_sum - (a >> 8) - (a >> 16) ^ (a >> 24) + (a >> 32), ; a ^ b_sum - (a >> 8) - (a >> 16) ^ (a >> 24) + (a >> 32) + (a >> 40), ; a ^ b_sum - (a >> 8) - (a >> 16) ^ (a >> 24) + (a >> 32) + (a >> 40) - (a >> 48), ; r26 is incremented later, the first time it's 0, ; this loop wil run twice, probably decoding each quad of the data from the gun, // byte D is ignored, probably a padding byte - to make the checksum workout, // bkey & 3 selects the mode operation for this byte, ; loop_counter = 13 // there are 15 bytes in the buffer, the last byte is a checksum and. Spare Internal Connector for Aimtrak module, Bluetooth 4.0 USB Dongle for BlueHID, Aimtrak. This makes them compatible with ALL displays Both CRTs and flat-panels. Since most gun games work using the same technology it wouldn't be hard to interface one with MAME, it's just the software side of things that would need modifying. I should add I plan on using these (this driver) on a PC with Windows XP, a CRT monitor, and MAME v 124 with MaLa. I have no idea how the move compares but I if it really doesn't do miles better then there's something terribly wrong with it considering it came out so many years later. I can't remember exactly how to hook it up on the top of my head but basically convert the s-video from the pc to composite, hook that in whatever way it runs to the guncon, and then run that to your tv. Really hoping (FINGERS CROSSED) this works well with MAME v.124 And I hope I have no issues using two guns ! Some DIY assembly and creativity is needed for the PCB mounting. Also the PS2 version uses a real light gun which gives it excessive flashing as a machine gun game. The PCB should be mounted centrally on the monitor, and as close to the top of the monitor screen as possible. The Gcon3 (or GunCon3) from Namco was the third version of the popular Gcon series released for the PlayStation consoles. For more information, please see our If this continues to be the case you might need to install the Config software to diagnose the problem. Another InterruptTransfer call is made with a pointer to the receive buffer and a callback to a subroutine at $0787CC4 which I called guncon_DecodeGunData - this is where the really interesting bits happen. I guess I'll try hacking another S-video cable. This leaves an aperture which should be large enough for the new PCB and sensor. In this case the gain might need to be increased. Over time, MAME (originally stood for Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) absorbed the sister-project MESS (Multi Emulator Super System), so MAME now documents a wide variety of (mostly vintage) computers, video game consoles and calculators, in addition to the arcade video games that were its initial focus. flat-panels. Looking forward to trying this out tonight. Purchase a GunCon3:https://ebay.us/tb5Ge7 This pattern appears quite a bit in the code we will look at, and it makes everything look a bit messy. The InterruptTransfer function sets up a callback to a subroutine at $07880E4 that I called guncon_recv. This suggests that the data is scrambled in some way, possibly encrypted. This display will help to identify the problem. This information is provided for educational and interoperability purposes. There are also mounting holes in the PCB for"proper" mounting using brackets/screws, but none are supplied owing to different gun internal shapes. I guess I don't understand your issue. MAME is a multi-purpose emulation framework it's purpose is to preserve decades of software history. All the other settings are also read from the device every 5 seconds. Off-screen would normally be used for "off-screen reload". The interrupt endpoints must be polled by the driver and always send/receive a fixed amount of data. I really wanted to use this light gun in MAME for all the old arcade shooting games, so I wrote a kernel module so that it will work as a joystick. Each button has an "Enable Cal" check box which, when checked, allows this button to initiate calibration when held down. Over time, MAME (originally stood for Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) absorbed the sister-project MESS (Multi Emulator Super System), so MAME now documents a wide variety of (mostly vintage) computers, video game consoles and It is only compatible with the PS3 games Time Crisis 4 ( TC4 ), Time Crisis 4: Razing Storm and Deadstorm Pirates. And of course you'd need a 50/60hz CRT. The receive buffer is a ring buffer that appears to defined as uint8_t buffer[32][16]. Upgrade Your NES Games With HD Graphics Packs, Interview with Sebastian from There Oughta Be, https://www.laserbear.net/products/guncon3-ir-tower-replacements, IGS PolyGame Master Hardware and Games Overview, MiSTer FPGA News N64, Sega Saturn, TMNT, Battletoads & More, Wii HDMI Kit Compatible With All Non-Mini Models, Wii Dual HDMI, RGB and Component Upgrade, Wii Virtual Console Games vs. the Originals, Scaling Retro Gaming Captures with Virtualdub. If your using a CRT monitor or arcade monitor you'll have to create some sort of hack cable which I'm not sure how to do. Those settings are in the wingun driver itself. As someone who does find linux a pain to work with, how easy is it to get this working with a PS1 emulator, or would someone be able to port this over as a windows device driver. And I get a black and whit epicture. Take a second to support Bob on Patreon! We can see that there are 2 Interrupt endpoints on the USB device, one input and one output. The picture below shows the relationship between the LEDs, bent downwards, and the gun. Doba dodn me zejmna vdob piky kolsat. Free shipping for many products! This means the cursor will move when the gun is tilted. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://beardypig.github.io/2016/01/06/guncon3/. This means if you intend to look through the gun-sights when playing you must do this when calibrating, or if you "shoot from the hip" you must do this when calibrating. My TV isn't brand new, it's a 27a60 from 2002 i believe. In your game software, the game must be configured to use the mouse pointer as a gun. Click on "Select Firmware File" and navigate to the UFW file. Thanks all My project : The GunCon 3 is not compatible as it has no driver support yet. The GunCon 3 is not compatible as it has no driver support yet. Once I had the TC4 elf file I could load it up in IDA Pro 64Bit The PS Move is much more accurate but still not as accurate as a real light gun. This display shows the Infra-Red LED as seen by the sensor. I say roughly because there are maximum and minimum values, and it depends on the size of your TV and how far apart the sensors are. Next, some info on why these IR towers are important: See, the GunCon3 uses those sensors to aim and NOT the timing of a CRT. Displaying Calibration Errors: Any calibration errors are displayed as text either in the "Display Data" tab screen or the "Sensor View" tab screen. This is the commented version of the IDA disassembly: You can see that the see the address masking I mentioned before a few times in this snippet. Looking forward to trying this out tonight. Again I will show my recoded C version and then the relevant disassembly. There also appears to be a strange bug where 100s of button presses being generated when the joysticks are held in a specific position, I have yet to track it down. The Guncon 3 works as well as the TC4 arcade guns (although they are harder to calibrate right). 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Refresh your browser window to try again. It might also be useful in gun applications which have a visible "cross-hair" target which does not require any visual aim of the gun. WebThe SAMCO is a Namco GunCon with the insides replaced with an Arduino micro controller and DF Robot IR positioning camera and works as HID mouse on LCD (flat screen) TV/monitors. An image sensor in the muzzle tracks the markers as reference points for determining where the gun is pointing on the screen. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Item exactly as described, great condition! The housekeeping and set up for the next call are not very interesting and I won't cover them. 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